Income Flip Podcast

#86. Neal Bawa—How the Wealthy Legally Pay Less Tax with Real Estate

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with Neal Bawa, known as the “Mad Scientist of Real Estate,” to unpack how data—not opinions—drives smarter investing. A former Silicon Valley executive, Neal shares how discovering the power of depreciation and tax strategy led him into real estate, and how he slowly transitioned from tech to building a multifamily portfolio. The conversation dives deep into using job growth, population trends, and demographic data to rank markets, why most investors misunderstand growth states, and how to identify emerging opportunities before the crowd. If you want to invest based on numbers instead of noise, this episode is a masterclass in data-driven real estate strategy.

#85. Lindsay Davis—From the 2008 Crash to a 2,200-Door Rental Empire

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez talks with Lindsay Davis, CEO of Spartan Invest and Atlas Rental Property, about leaving corporate America during the 2008 housing crash and building a scalable turnkey rental business. Lindsay shares how flipping homes led to financial instability, why rental cash flow became the turning point, and how focusing on strong secondary markets helped her team grow to managing 2,200+ rental units across the Southeast. This conversation breaks down what it really takes to flip active income into long-term, cash-flowing assets.

#84. Lance Hood—Why Most New Franchise Owners Fail (And the Fix That Works)

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Rob Chevez sits down with Lance Hood, a franchise strategist and business matchmaker who helps entrepreneurs avoid one of the most expensive mistakes in investing: buying the wrong business for who they are.
Lance shares his unconventional journey—from growing up inside a multi-million-dollar family manufacturing business, to leaving after its sale, to experimenting in real estate, personal development, and finally discovering where most aspiring business owners go wrong. Drawing on decades of experience, Lance explains why franchises aren’t “done-for-you” investments, why most W-2 earners underestimate the skills required to succeed, and why mindset and personal wiring matter more than spreadsheets.
Together, Rob and Lance break down what it really takes to build a cash machine that produces leveraged income—whether through franchises, real estate, or other businesses. They explore the difference between investing in the stock market versus owning an operating business, the dangers of “buying a job,” and why sales, marketing, and personal accountability are non-negotiable skills for anyone seeking freedom.

#83. Julia Lashay—Bankruptcy to Breakthrough: How Resilience Built a 21-Year Real Estate Empire

In this episode of the Income Flip Podcast, Julia Lashay, a seasoned real estate entrepreneur shares her journey from starting in real estate at a young age to becoming a leader in the industry. She discusses her early career challenges, including losing properties during the market crash and her resilience in overcoming setbacks. Julia emphasizes the importance of mindset, audacity, and surrounding oneself with the right people to achieve success. She also highlights her work in promoting social equity and her role in teaching and consulting within the real estate community. The conversation touches on personal growth, leadership lessons, and the value of time and relationships in building a successful career.

#82. Angela Healy—How to Turn a Condo Into a $3,500/Month Midterm Rental

In this episode, Angela Healy shares her journey and expertise in the corporate rental market. Starting from her early exposure to real estate through her parents, Angela discusses how she transitioned from a career in commercial banking to establishing a successful real estate brokerage focused on corporate rentals. She explains the unique business model of partnering with property owners to provide fully furnished, flexible housing solutions for corporations, emphasizing the importance of location, amenities, and security. Angela also highlights the challenges and opportunities in the industry, including the impact of COVID-19 and the growing demand for temporary housing due to manufacturing and tech industry expansions. The conversation provides valuable insights into the corporate housing market and Angela's strategic approach to navigating its complexities.
 

#81. Alan Franks—Why Entrepreneurs Burn Out Before They Cash Out

In this episode Alan Franks, a financial planner and author of "Empowered Money" discusses the challenges entrepreneurs face, particularly the misconception of viewing businesses solely as income streams rather than valuable assets. Alan emphasizes the importance of business valuation, strategic planning, and the benefits of treating a business as an asset that can grow and provide financial security. They also explore the significance of having a succession plan and the role of financial planning in achieving personal and business goals. Alan shares insights from his book, highlighting the value of real estate and the importance of leveraging financial tools to build wealth.

#80. Luis Belmonte—From Vietnam to $2 Billion in Deals

In this episode of the "Income Flip" podcast, Rob Chevez interviews Luis Belmonte, a seasoned real estate developer from San Francisco. Luis shares his extensive journey in the real estate industry, starting from his early days as a property manager and handyman to becoming a successful developer. He discusses his experiences with various real estate deals, the lessons learned from both successes and failures, and his philosophy on investment and risk management. Luis emphasizes the importance of knowing oneself, understanding one's strengths and weaknesses, and being prepared for economic downturns. He also shares insights into his current focus on retail and low-income housing projects, highlighting the value of staying under the radar and bringing big-time expertise to small-time deals. Throughout the conversation, Luis offers valuable advice for aspiring real estate professionals, stressing the significance of indifference in negotiations and the need to always plan for the downside.
 

#79. Jason Stubblefield—Turning Single-Family Struggles into a 1,100-Unit Multifamily Empire

In this engaging conversation, Rob Chevez and Jason Stubblefield discuss Jason's journey into real estate investing, focusing on multifamily properties and affordable housing. They explore the lessons learned from early investments, the importance of marketing and sales, and the current trends in the multifamily market. Jason shares his vision for helping others through real estate and the strategies he employs to navigate challenges and ensure sustainable growth. The discussion emphasizes the significance of resilience, personal growth, and the impact of financial literacy in achieving success in real estate.

#78. Benjamin Carmona—From Burned-Out Landlord to Hands-Off Investor

In this episode Benjamin Carmona, a seasoned expert in real estate finance and 1031 exchanges shares his journey from growing up in the LA area to becoming a financial advisor specializing in real estate. He discusses the importance of 1031 exchanges for baby boomers and seniors looking to transition from active property management to passive income streams. Ben emphasizes the value of working with knowledgeable advisors and highlights the unique benefits of Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs) in estate planning and tax deferral. The conversation also touches on Ben's personal experiences, including the challenges of starting his own business, Perch Wealth, and his investment strategies focused on passive income through real estate and other assets.

#77. Beau Turner—Leaving Real Estate Behind for the Bitcoin Revolution

In this episode, Beau Turner shares insights into his decision to divest from traditional real estate and fully embrace the digital currency world, highlighting the parallels between real estate investment and Bitcoin mining. The conversation delves into the technical and financial aspects of Bitcoin, the potential for sustainable energy solutions, and the future of wealth storage.